Independent driving

The DSA web site as eve tells us what is supposed to happen, but the hearsay and rumours are not telling exactly the same story, as is the apparent local differences.

Are we now just playing the waiting game ?

Yep a waiting game for sure. The trials were not great.......infact the first tests to go out are still trials imo
After a quick read of the reports of both trials so far, there seems far too many unanswered questions and I can't belive its going ahead at this stage

A few people seem to be looking forward to it. I think its a disaster waiting to happen

There seems to be a good understanding of what is likely but nothing concrete.
Will it be both "Follow signs to" and "2-3 instructions" or a choice of either, then is the examiners choice or the pupils choice ?

Too many unanswered questions.

Test centre manager here said she has 6 routes for multiple directions, 4 routes for follow the signs and another 4 routes that will be a combination.

Examiners choice. Unless pupil has special needs, the pupil is allowed some say in what would be easier for them (I feel a sudden increase in dyslexic test candidates lol).

The DSA paper said that following signs showed more faults, spoken direction came second where visual diagrams were slightly better. It is a trail overall though, as they need to see evidence that is has helped reduce road death in the 17-25 age group.

Dale you read about the 18% pass rate in the DSA's own publication! It was after the first trial. They even wrote that they expected the pass rate to drop to between 13-18%

In the second 'trial' they decided (for no explained reason) not to mark the trial candidates on a pass/fail basis. They just stated they expect no significant fall in pass rates.........how they know this without a proper trial is anyones guess

I'm heading to an ADI meeting tonight, which Bill Garety is also due to attend to talk about this very thing.

I'll report back if anything of interest is said, although I suspect that it'll all be b#llsh~t and waffle

Tom McD wrote:I'm heading to an ADI meeting tonight, which Bill Garety is also due to attend to talk about this very thing.

I'll report back if anything of interest is said, although I suspect that it'll all be b#llsh~t and waffle

See I knew there were secret meetings no one was telling me about
Take it this is a member only thing?

It's a Franchise meeting Evon - If I could sneak you in I would !!

You would think the dsa would have a meeting at ALL test centres open to all ADI's.

The amount of adi's i meet at test centres who just don't have a clue about what is happening is unreal.

Tom McD wrote:It's a Franchise meeting Evon - If I could sneak you in I would !!

Yeah they would never notice my car parked outside

Most test centres run monthly surgeries, and to be honest they have always made it available for you to knock and arrange a chat with the SE. They like an interest from ADIs and PDI's.

There are ADI's out there who are not up to date, but there are even more who think they are up to date and are not.

Admin

Admin wrote:Most test centres run monthly surgeries, and to be honest they have always made it available for you to knock and arrange a chat with the SE. They like an interest from ADIs and PDI's.

Maybe most, but deffo not my local test centre. There has been 1 surgery this year (unfortunatly I didn't see the notice for it until after). The TCM isn't in every day and isn't in to having random chats with us meer ADI's either In all the time I've been there, I've spoken with her once and at no other time have I seen her speaking with any ADI's. Same goes for all the examiners.

If Tom gets a chance to speak to Bill this eve, can you ask him to make sure the ADI's working from Shieldhall get some kind of meeting organised??

I'm really surprised there is so little tc support. When I lived in Essex it was encouraged, and the SE, used to hang around the tc on Friday afternoon, sharing coffee and a chat with everyone. When he retired they could not fill his role for some reason, and it was still vacant when I moved from there.
Have you asked your national association rep to investigate?

LA